No, I’m not discussing sweaters. I’m discussing *whispers* foreskins.
The big decision for some pregnant moms-to-be is “If my baby is a boy, do I have him circumcised or leave him au naturel?” I say some because for other mother’s this isn’t even a consideration, it’s either a yes, often for religious reasons, or no for personal or cultural reasons. How does this relate to m/m romance you are asking and what the hell are you rambling on about? Getting there. When you read m/m romance do you care if the characters are cut or uncut? Do you assume they are if a character is American and aren’t if they are European? Does it even cross your mind if you don’t specifically see reference to it in the story? What about the future of m/m romance?
I raise the issue because in Canada, the stats say about 30% of adult men are circumcised, in the US 75%, in the UK 6% and in Australia 60%. The number in Canada remains about the same for babies although Quebec is much lower. So in 20 years, the odds of finding a circumcised French-Canadian lover (fictional or otherwise) will be pretty slim. Only about 2% of British children are circumcised today and less than 15% of Australians, however it remains at about 85% for parts of the US mid-west. Should authors pay attention to trends like this or do we not care? Obviously if a character is Jewish or Muslim we would expect them to be circumcised as their religion dictates, but what if he’s born in Chicago and his lover is British? Would it throw you off to have the British lover be cut or would you likely not notice. (Of course now that I’m tossing these stats at you it will jump out next time you read it. Sorry. 🙂 )
I’ll be honest, when I’m reading most of the time I don’t really care nor do I think about it, but it would throw me off more if someone from a European country was cut than it would the reverse. If a character born in Nebraska was intact, I wouldn’t think twice, even though I suppose it would be rare. If the author doesn’t say cut or uncut I’m not sure what I presume. I guess I just don’t think about it. I’m assuming in historical novels the men are au naturel unless there is a religious basis for it.
So authors, do you think about foreskins? While you are writing of course. 🙂 Do you consider whether your character would or wouldn’t have one depending on their culture, where they were born, nationality? Or do you write in such a way that it simply doesn’t come up, the foreskin issue I mean, I’m not talking erectile disfunction. Readers, do you care? Do you prefer one or the other (either in books or real-life) and would you notice if something is statistically out of the norm? This is not a debate out whether children should or shouldn’t be, but about characters fitting the demographics from which they come. (This could apply to hair color – excpet for all those blonde Japanese men in yaoi – or any trait I suppose).
Ya gotta love Belgian animators.
Tam
I don’t really think about it, much! I did a post sometime ago about this but it was more along the lines of asking gay men what their preference was. Bobby Michaels, one of my favourite M/M authors, loves the foreskin and even what’s underneath it, so all of his heroes are uncut.
In a gay romance I suppose I prefer that the guy be uncut because there’s so much ‘play’ with the skin, but other than that I don’t mind either, just as long as he has one – cock, I mean. 🙂
“just as long as he has one – cock, I mean.”
Um, yeah. I’d have to say that’s pretty much a deal breaker for me with a guy. LOL
In the case of always writing about guy with foreskins, I know Bobby Michaels does the university dorm type thing, if the dorm in the US was full of guys who were uncut, that would be pretty unrealistic since even today 85% of babies are circumcised so I think that would throw me off. Some kind of weird statistical anomaly.
For myself, I don’t care but am definitely more familiar with the cut version.
In fiction, unless it’s mentioned, I don’t think about it and apparently just assume they’re “fixed”.
And you’re right…..I”m going to be very aware from now on. Thanks alot, Tam??!!!! 😉
“I”m going to be very aware from now on. Thanks alot, Tam??!!!!”
You’re welcome. *beams* Don’t you hate when people do that? Ask you if you notice something and then all of a sudden you do where you didn’t before? LOL
If the characters are American I think I too assume cut, but mostly I guess I just don’t think about it much unless it’s specifically mentioned.
“Don’t you hate when people do that? Ask you if you notice something and then all of a sudden you do where you didn’t before?”
Yes. Thank you SO much, Tam dearest.
Ha! Like you’re one to talk Miss “Is it just me or …. 😛
Did we just watch the fappy dance?
He’s a happy penis. 😀
I definitely assume they have them in historicals. I suppose the author was going with the assumption the foreskin was hanging around during the sex scene. 🙂 I know some authors really bring it into the sex scene and make a point of it and others don’t. I suppose like anything that’s a personal preference.
I’ve really only ever written fanfiction, but mostly, cut or uncut doesn’t play a part in what I read or write. Unless the author makes a point in the story about it, I don’t even pay attention to that part of the description.
So that would make my preference a ‘dickie’ under my crew cut? 🙂
“So that would make my preference a ‘dickie’ under my crew cut? ”
LOL I haven’t heard the use of the word dickie since I was a kid. 🙂 Personally I don’t pay all that much attention to it either when I read.
Hmmm. Maybe that’s why Quebec has such a low rate of circumcision Eden since it is predominantly Catholic. I’m not so familiar with their practices beyond the obvious stuff like the Pope.